thin 1944

[laytonre]

have a 1944 thin pennny looks like the real thing, but very thin weak details, weight less than a gram. where can i fine info on vaule/auth..richard

[CCC]

Can you post a picture?

[Shingpumps]

I'd like to see a pic too

[mustbebob]

A photo would go a long way in determining if it looks like it was given an acid bath. It could be laminations that peeled off, but a weight of less that 1 gram kinda rules out foreign planchets as far as I know.

[1gtsfan]

i have seen a wheat penny as described. the owner didn't sell it to me. it looks just like a wheat penny but with about half the thickness, and it sounded different.

[laytonre]

ok will try and post pic 8-2-08, this is very thin, even a old dime...will try and some ref as to the size and thinkness when i get pics...richard

[Shingpumps]

Looking forward to the pic Rich

[Shingpumps]

The pics of the Thin wheat are in laytonre's Album!

[mustbebob]

The thin cent's surface looks as though it was give a bath in acid.

[1sgret]

The thin cent's surface looks as though it was give a bath in acid.
With a weight of less than 1.0 GR, I would have to go with an acid Bath. Mike Diamond could proably tell by evaluating the photos. Just a thought!!!

[laytonre]

hay everybody pic dont show the thickness but it is less that a couple of sheets of paper...the detail in the pictures are almost see through, the coin is had to explain as i have never see one that is this thin and still have surface detail on both sides.. a 3x5 card is thicker... look at the pic in the album richard

[mustbebob]

laytonre,
I don't know if you have ever seen a cent that was dipped in acid, or any other chemical, but the diagnostics, and the visual, show that is most likely what happened. Remember that an acid bath will take the entire surface down the same amount..not just the higher portions of the coin. Therefore, seeing some of the design elements, even though it has been eaten up that much, is not out of the ordinary for a chemically treated coin.

[laytonre]

believe that an acid bath would eat the whole thing up...less that .3 grams in weight, its paper thin and it has visable stamping on both sides when i set it on top of the other penny all you see is the rim of the new one under it, and if you look at it sideways it is not as thick as a 3X5 card stock..tried to pick it up with magnet noluck, looks to be copper

[1sgret]

I would have to still go with Bob's synopsis as a acid treated coin. It would depend how long you left the coin the the acid bath. As you can tell with the washed out features and no upset rim around the edge.

It looks like a Spandone error (manmade) to fool the collector, but hard to tell by the photos. The only other synopsis would be a split off layer from a planchet that made it's way past the upset mill and into the striking chamber to be struck as a coin would. However the details of the coin show a strong strike at one time (Now washed out). A split off layer this thin would not show a strong strike at one time.

[mustbebob]

laytonre,
I don't know what else you want us to tell you. Your pictures and coin description are excellent, and we are stating our opinions based on that. Please understand that these are just that...our opinions or educated guesses. You always have the option of sending the coin to an error specialist for their examination and opinion, and should definitely do that if what we added to this thread still does not meet with your satisfaction.

[liveandievarieties]

Neat coin and fun subject, THANKS!!!

[pman860507]

Neat coin and fun subject, THANKS!!!


This is going to be a interesting day!

but really only 2008.

[liveandievarieties]

Lol, are ya feelin' me Casey?? :tinysmile_classes_t

[pman860507]

Oh yeah!

I found a thin cent once. looked almost like a blank planchet with no rims. i threw it in the trash bag!

[liveandievarieties]

As you may know Casey, there can be several causes for this.

Could be a normal coin that spent time sitting in acid (not as uncommon as you might think). I understand that back in the day some of these could actually pass for a dime in a vending machine.

Other causes for a genuine error to appear this way can include a coin rolled on (too) thin stock, a tapered planchet or a planchet that split due to alloy impurities before being struck.

There have been dozens of threads on this subject, I'm going to go dig them up now.....

[pman860507]

As you may know Casey, there can be several causes for this.

Could be a normal coin that spent time sitting in acid (not as uncommon as you might think). I understand that back in the day some of these could actually pass for a dime in a vending machine.

Other causes for a genuine error to appear this way can include a coin rolled on (too) thin stock, a tapered planchet or a planchet that split due to alloy impurities before being struck.

There have been dozens of threads on this subject, I'm going to go dig them up now.....


Awesome then i can read them all without searching! Mine was 100% acid.

[liveandievarieties]

Awesome then i can read them all without searching!

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[pman860507]

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[coop]

Well guess who has images of one?? LOL


http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/coop49/Acid_dipped_Coins.jpg

[pman860507]

Well guess who has images of one?? LOL

You never fail me!

[rlm's cents]

believe that an acid bath would eat the whole thing up...less that .3 grams in weight, its paper thin and it has visable stamping on both sides when i set it on top of the other penny all you see is the rim of the new one under it, and if you look at it sideways it is not as thick as a 3X5 card stock..tried to pick it up with magnet noluck, looks to be copper

Actually, acid does just the opposite. Did you ever hear of "raising a serial number" on a gun after it has been filed off? The act of punching the number into the gun (essentially the same as minting a coin) changed the molecular structure in the metal at that area. The acid then selectively eats the areas punched making the number readable again. I don't have any to show you here, but some people do the same thing with worn out Buffalo nickels. You can use nik-a-date to raise the date from one worn totally flat or some actually soak the nickel in vinegar. They use vinegar because the reaction is slow so it can be stopped long before the whole coin is gone. Anyway, soaking if for a couple weeks bring out most of the details that have been worn away but also reduces teh weight quite noticeably.

BTW, 13-S type II and 18/17-D acid treated Buffaloes can still bring a fair penny.

[coinman2009]

Its always surprised me how many of these are out there. Nice pics Coop!

[mustbebob]

Actually, acid does just the opposite. Did you ever hear of "raising a serial number" on a gun after it has been filed off? The act of punching the number into the gun (essentially the same as minting a coin) changed the molecular structure in the metal at that area. The acid then selectively eats the areas punched making the number readable again. I don't have any to show you here, but some people do the same thing with worn out Buffalo nickels. You can use nik-a-date to raise the date from one worn totally flat or some actually soak the nickel in vinegar. They use vinegar because the reaction is slow so it can be stopped long before the whole coin is gone. Anyway, soaking if for a couple weeks bring out most of the details that have been worn away but also reduces teh weight quite noticeably.

BTW, 13-S type II and 18/17-D acid treated Buffaloes can still bring a fair penny.

I agree with this completely. It all depends how the acid is used. It can be detrimental, or helpful.

[tinytinkerbell]

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