What does everyone else think?

[adam1]

I know that it is not a Lincoln but I just wanted to know whatt other people thought of this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1970d-OFF-METAL-ERROR-Washington-DIME-stock-US-Coin-/110685408041?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item19c55d4b29

[coinman2009]

it's interesting for sure! could be!:)

[adam1]

If you look at it half of the stuff would be missing I think it would look like a off center strike. If you lay a dime on top of a quarter and see the size diffrence.

[Maineman750]

I would think it would be much thinner if it were a dime planchet. But look at the seller ...116 feedbacks, yet he says he has 100-200 auctions per week. If I remember correctly, somebody posted weird stuff by this seller just a week or two ago.

[adam1]

And look what all he is a member of.

[simonm]

well the other layer of the quarter still exists, as you can see a line of separation along the rim. In 1970, as well as other years, some quarters were accidentally struck on a planchet THE THICKNESS of a dime, not on an actual dime planchet. This is actually a genuine error, and apparently can be around $10 in "fine" condition. The 1970-D is the most prominent year to spot this error, but it also has occured in 1979, 1974, 1969, 1967, and 1965.

[Maineman750]

Now I remember...this seller had a 1971 lincoln cent that he claimed was missing the copper plating.....I questioned him and he replied it had to be real because he got if from Fred or something to that effect.

simonm, not sure what you mean by the "other layer of the quarter" ?

[jfines69]

There are three layers of metal on the 25 and 10 c planchets.... Copper is the center layer... The 25c listed appears to be missing the copper layer and that explains the thickness error... Hope this helps!!!

[Maineman750]

jfines69...that did it for me..."missing the copper layer"...thanks!

[DoubleYou]

I wouldn't be so quick to say that this seller is bad.

[Maineman750]

Well DoubleYou....I am doubtful of the seller...but again, I questioned him and the answer was so far off the wall I would have a hard time taking him serious. Here is coin I questioned him on and his response:http://my.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MyMessagesFolderView&&ssPageName=STRK:MEMM:LNLK&FolderId=0&CurrentPage=MyeBayMyMessages#CentralArea

[adam1]

I'm not saying he is a bad seller I'm just wandering what he ment by struck on a dime due to the fact it is the diamter of a quarter not a dime but the thickness is the same as a dime. What I am getting is that its not a dime planchet it is dime thickness material that got punched out for quarter planchets right? I am just trying to find this out as I have been putting together a collection of off metal coins and this one didn't seem right to me.

[Maineman750]

I think you have it right Adam1..thin planchet...

[adam1]

Yep he just e-mailed me back and thats what he said too. Too bad its not a dime planchet as i have been trying to find one for a while now.

[lineop3]

Just wondering...would the quarter weigh the same, or should we expect it to be of a lighter weight?
Adam, this is a great post you brought up...thanks!

Aisha

[Maineman750]

I would expect it to be lighter by quite a bit

[jcuve]

The seller is knowledgeable and known amongst the error variety community; that said I don't have a dime stock quarter and can't asses this auction for you. I would prefer to see the coin's weight listed and a closeup of the surface to help me. I would suggest shooting an email to Mike D. or Fred W. and see if either would give a quick thumbs up or down based on the evidence given.

[Maineman750]

jcuve,I'm not doubting your word about the seller...but could you explain his auction for an unplated clad 1971 lincoln cent ? Maybe I'm missing something ?http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110676357235&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

[jfines69]

Maineman... I agree with you that is strange... Unless it was a coin that the mint was testing different metals with it is not legite... I do not believe the mint let any test coins out to the public!!!

[Maineman750]

Well, the seller couldn't explain it,so you can see why I had my doubts. His answer was that "I got it from Al, so I know it's genuine".

[wolfkill]

ebay@$&%^%$&*$*(#$@@(* oops did i say that!

[uncommoncents42]

I have found one of these 1970-D quarters in the mid 80's when I was a teen. It was much thinner and had a "silver-like" chime. I did not know what it was but held on to it because it was different. It has the same diameter as a regular quarter but the thickness is noticeable.

The Official Price Guide To Mint Errors 7th edition states: "In one of the largest instances of this class, several thousand 1970-D quarters were struck on dime-stock planchets and a smaller number of dimes on quarter stock planchets." Ref # III-E-7.

Here are some pics of the 1970-D Dime-stock planchet error I found years ago. The thinner Error quarter is on left and bottom in the pics. The 3rd picture illustrates the difference in thickness between the 1970-D d.s error and a normal quarter on right. The fourth picture Illustrates the same thickness of a dime (top) and the 1970-D d.s. error quarter on bottom.

[adam1]

Uncommoncents42 thanks for the pics I have never seen one before. I collect off planchet errors and I have been looking for a quarter struck on a dime planchet and thought I found one but it was one like yours.

[uncommoncents42]

You're welcome adam1. Glad I could help.

[jcuve]

jcuve,I'm not doubting your word about the seller...but could you explain his auction for an unplated clad 1971 lincoln cent ? Maybe I'm missing something ?http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110676357235&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

Missed your follow up post...yikes...I just cannot explain that 1971S Lincoln cent...making me previous comments look a little off base.

[liveandievarieties]

As Simon correctly stated, this is a well known error type. Different from just a thin or thick planchet (rolling anomalies), this coin is struck from a quarter sized planched, punched out of dime-thickness stock. 1970-D is the best known year for this specific planchet error, they were indeed produced by the thousands.

In circulated grades, this coin can be found regularly on eBay for $20-40. In certified mint state grades the price can be well in excess of $100. About 18 months ago, I had 2 of them, both choice to gem BU. One had a frosty luster as is common for '70-D quarters, the other, a much more satiny luster. The second was cut directly from a mint set. Both were sent to ANACS at the same time. Each came back as AU58! Frustrating as heck, I called ANACS and explained that the lack of die detail was from the lack of metal from a thinner planchet. They thought I was trying to jive them and didn't really understand what I was trying to communicate. I would expect the same from either of the other 2 TPGs, though I've seen NGC slab them in mint state. These were released into circulation as well as found in mint sets.

[eaxtellcoin]

As for the seller. This is a different account than he had before. He is a well known Dealer of RPM's and is a member of both NCADD/CONECA