2006DDO Finder

[Pat]

2006 DDO (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250196479499)<<<<<<<<---- LINK TO AUCTION

The seller claims he is the one and only..


This coin is guaranteed genuine. I am credited with finding the variety so there should be no question as to whether it's genuine or not. Believe me - it is the real thing!

[car10]

2006 DDO (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250196479499)

The seller claims he is the one and only..
Is this tread about a specific auction? Please post a link. Thanks.

[Pat]

Is this tread about a specific auction? Please post a link. Thanks.

I did.. Did you click the 2006 DDO link?

[car10]

Duh. Sorry.

[Brad]

Would you guy consider this a "major" doubled die? In my opinion it is weaker than the 1972 doubled dies II, III, VIII and much weaker then the 1995 ddo.

Below are CONECA links to info about both strong 2006 DDO's:

http://hermes.csd.net/~coneca/content/20061cDblEarCONECAArticle.htm

http://hermes.csd.net/~coneca/content/20061cDDOClassicCONECAArticle.htm

Which one would you rather have?

[Pat]

Would you guy consider this a "major" doubled die? In my opinion it is weaker than the 1972 doubled dies II, III, VIII and much weaker then the 1995 ddo.

Below are CONECA links to info about both strong 2006 DDO's:

http://hermes.csd.net/~coneca/content/20061cDblEarCONECAArticle.htm

http://hermes.csd.net/~coneca/content/20061cDDOClassicCONECAArticle.htm

Which one would you rather have?

I would rather have a 1969 or 1955.. Better yet I rather have "a newly discovered double die on a MS67 cent I run across in the future". :)

[car10]

If you are considering including this in your Top 50 and your accepting votes...I vote NO.

[Brad]

I like the doulbed ear one, but it is nothing like 1984 DDO 1. I would not put it in my top 50, unless it gains a lot of popularity... which probably wont happen.

[wavysteps]

I know the seller of the 2006P-1DO-017 (CONECA, DDO-003) and it is the real thing and he is the one who found it.

As to this die, I would considerate it very important for it is the strongest single squeeze doubled die to date. I was one of the first to attribute this die and the doubling is very strong through out the entire obverse; bow tie, lips, hair, just to name a few other points that the doubling can be seen.

I would consider this in the top 50 Lincoln cent doubled dies.

As for the doubled ear (2006 version), it is another nice single squeeze doubled die, which by the way has an F/S number, but is not as strong as the 2006P-1DO-017.

Will we ever see a doubled die like the 1955 Lincoln cent or even the 1972 DDO-001? There are a couple of foreign doubled dies, one from Britain (a 2004 1 Pound coin) and one from India ( a 2006, 2 Rupee coin) that have fantastic hub doubling. The problem is whether they were made from a single squeeze hubbing system. I have sent an E-mail to the Royal British Mint in hopes of confirming if the 1 pound coin was a single squeeze hubbed die. As of yet, no word has come back. I will also try and contact the India mint in hopes of find out what type system they use. If either of these mints used a single squeeze hubbing system on these coins, then the answer is yes, we can expect, MAYBE, a doubled die like the 1955 Lincoln DDO-001.

To be honest with you, we were lulled by the MINT into believing that doubled dies were not going to be produced by the single squeeze system. That belief was shattered in 2004 when Crawford found the first affirmed single squeeze doubled die (there is the 1997 doubled ear that may have been a single squeeze doubled die or as others say, that it is not a doubled die at all). The dam then really broke with the discoveries of the 2004 Peace nickel doubled die DDO-001 and the 2004 Lincoln cent doubled die obverse and reverse. With the floodgates fully opened, doubled dies began popping up all over. However, that delay put us behind in learning just what the single squeeze system is all about. Believe me, there are differences, even though it does not appear that there are. The one major difference is wavy steps and trails which were not produced by the multiple hubbing system, but yet are being produced by the single squeeze system. What makes the chore of learn about this system even more difficult is that there are no known private enterprises that use a single squeeze hubbing system that we can learn from. That only leaves the US and Canadian MINTS to ask and they are both pretty quiet.

So that leaves us with guessing until we can find out what is happening.

As to the future of single squeeze doubled dies, who knows. The MINT does not seem to concerned that the single squeeze system does produce them. And even though 2007 seemed to be a fairly dry year for any type of die anomaly, who knows what 2008 will bring. Hopefully it will be a change. We have only a few weeks to wait, LOL.

By the way, I'll be at the CONECA table for the Florida FUN coin show. So, if you are in the neighborhood, drop on by and say hello.

BJ Neff

[Shingpumps]

Where's the FL show @?

[wavysteps]

At the Orlando convention center. It is by far the largest in the nation.

BJ Neff

[Wheat Cents]

Both are strong Doubled Die Lincolns in there own right.

Brad.. your site lists the 2006 DDO

http://www.lincolncentresource.com/doubledies/2006ddo4.html

refering as a cross reference:

"Crawford: CRPM-029 and Wexler: WRPM-034"

for Wexler # you meant WDDO-034?

I would not have included it as a top 50 any more than the 1997 double ear...

[Brad]

Thanks for catching that mistake...I just fixed it. As far as that coin goes. I didn't think it was all that significant of a ddo until I actually saw one in person. I could see the doubling with the naked eye. Also, when I compared it to a normal 2006 with a loop, the doubling on the beard was a lot more pronounced than I thought. Keep in mind that this variety will be listed in the new Cherrypicker's guide. It and the 2004 DDR, are the only new doubled die listings since the 1997 ddo. The 1997 doubled die is in my opinion a very minor doubling. Anyhow, we will see how things go with this new ddo over the next year or two. The TOP 50 list is not permanent. I'm surprised there is not more disagreement about the coins in my list.

[Shingpumps]

Thanks for catching that mistake...I just fixed it. As far as that coin goes. I didn't think it was all that significant of a ddo until I actually saw one in person. I could see the doubling with the naked eye. Also, when I compared it to a normal 2006 with a loop, the doubling on the beard was a lot more pronounced than I thought. Keep in mind that this variety will be listed in the new Cherrypicker's guide. It and the 2004 DDR, are the only new doubled die listings since the 1997 ddo. The 1997 doubled die is in my opinion a very minor doubling. Anyhow, we will see how things go with this new ddo over the next year or two. The TOP 50 list is not permanent. I'm surprised there is not more disagreement about the coins in my list.
Same here. I didn't realize how major the second ear was till i found one.

[Wheat Cents]

"The Top 100" lists - First the Wexler - Allen list ; Then later the CONECA list both ingnite great discussion. Your list is fine but maybe you to could expand it to 100. Could discuss comparisons and contrasts to the other two. Yep as the 4.3 billion 2006 LC are looked through more will be found. Publicity and persistance drives the hunt. And time will tell...

[Brad]

My plan is to have:
A top 50 variety list
A top 50 rpm list
A top 50 doubled die list
A top 20 proof variety list

The toughest one is the Top 20 proof varieties. I know which 20 I want in the list, but ordering it is near impossible. Plus, I need pictures. I can't just go out and buy 1971 S DDO 1 & 2, a 1990 No S, and 1998 S Close AM.

I'm not going to have any top 100 lists. Two is enough. Plus, Wiles and Wexler know a lot more than me. I just wanted a list for rpm collector who says, "Man, 100 is a lot".

[Wheat Cents]

Sounds like a good idea... all tolled 170 different.

In distinguishing listing in the top 50 Variety list.... It will be other than rpms and doubled dies?

[Brad]

Sounds like a good idea... all tolled 170 different.

In distinguishing listing in the top 50 Variety list.... It will be other than rpms and doubled dies?


The Top 50 variety list is the same one we were talking about:
http://www.lincolncentresource.com/Top50.html

Here is the Top 50 rpm's:
http://www.lincolncentresource.com/RPMS/TOP50RPMs.html
(I will have a ranked list soon)

Here is a sneak peak at the top 50 ddo's:
(still a work in progress)

1. 1955 DDO 1
2. 1969 S DDO 1
3. 1958 DDO 1
4. 1983 DDR 1
5. 1972 DDO 1
6. 1970 S DDO 1
7. 1984 DDO 1
8. 1960 D/D DDO 1
9. 1936 DDO 1
10. 1995 DDO 1
11. 1982 DDR 1
12. 1917 DDO 1
13. 1936 DDO 2
14. 1941 DDO 1
15. 1941 DDO 2
16. 1909 VDB DDO 1
17. 1964 DDR 1
18. 1972 DDO 2
19. 1971 DDO 1
20. 2006 DDO 4
21. 1935 DDO 1
22. 1936 DDO 3
23. 1943 DDO 1
24. 1972 DDO 3
25. 1972 DDO 8
26. 1994 DDR 1
27. 1942 DDO 6
28. 1972 DDO 7
29. 1955 DDO 2
30. 1941 DDO 5
31. 1963 D DDO 1
32. 1995 D DDO 3
33. 1983 DDO 1
34. 1955 D DDO 1
35. 1972 DDO 4
36. 1959 DDO 1
37. 1972 D DDO 1
38. 1968 D DDR 1
39. 1942 DDO 4
40. 1934 DDO 1
41. 1939 DDO 1
42. 1943 S DDO 1
43. 1964 DDR 20 (FS-027)
44. 1980 DDO 1
45. 1947 DDO 1
46. 1984 DDO 2
47. 1946 S DDO 8
48. 1942 S DDO 1
49. 1909 VDB DDO 2
50. 2004 DDR 1

Still considering certain ddo's like 1951 D DDO 1 and 1927 DDO 1.

I would like to hear your opinions. Remember, for which ever one you want to add - you need to suggest one to remove and vica-versa.

[Wheat Cents]

a formidable DDO list indeed....