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With all these RDV's.. Can someone list the TOP RDV's to keep an eye out for..
I have a 1998D Close AM, but I also have some 1998 WIDE AM's.. I dunno which is which..
Shingpumps
12-13-2007, 11:56 PM
1. 1992p close
2. 1992d close
3. 1999p wide
4. 1988
5. 1998p wide
6. 2000p wide
PCGS price guide will help too.
Shingpumps
12-14-2007, 12:01 AM
I forgot about brads site.
http://www.lincolncentresource.com/wideams.html
car10
12-14-2007, 05:38 AM
1. 1992p close
2. 1992d close
3. 1999p wide
4. 1988
5. 1998p wide
6. 2000p wide
PCGS price guide will help too.
This list applies to business strike coins only(not proof coins).
1988 both P and D!(the key here is the designer's initials not the space between the A and M). So far, as far as I know, there has only been one Denver version found compared to the six reported Philadelphia examples.
This link is also VERY helpful:
http://www.varietyvista.com/lincoln_cent_RDV_changes.htm
This list applies to business strike coins only(not proof coins).
1988 both P and D!(the key here is the designer's initials not the space between the A and M). So far, as far as I know, there has only been one Denver version found compared to the six reported Philadelphia examples.
This link is also VERY helpful:
http://www.varietyvista.com/lincoln_cent_RDV_changes.htm
Actually that list isn't that helpful. That could easily be rewritten with a clear explanation. I think part of the problem is the links for the RDV's show different RDV's than the category it's listed in. :tinysmile_fatgrin_t
The variety vista page is very helpful. The only confusing thing to me is why 1989 is still listed under RDV-006. There should be more than just a link explaining that there are no known 1989 cents with the RDV-006 reverse.
Let me do my best to summarize things.
These are the coins with two different reverses, the bold one is considered rare or scarce.
1992 close AM, 1992 wide AM
1992D close AM, 1992 D wide AM
1998 close AM, 1998 wide AM
1998S close AM, 1998S wide AM
1999 close AM, 1999 wide AM
1999S close AM, 1999S wide AM
2000 close AM, 2000 wide AM
1988 RDV-005, 1988 RDV-006
1988D RDV-005, 1988D RDV-006
Those are the only known variations.
car10
12-14-2007, 03:29 PM
The variety vista page is very helpful. The only confusing thing to me is why 1989 is still listed under RDV-006. There should be more than just a link explaining that there are no known 1989 cents with the RDV-006 reverse.
Let me do my best to summarize things.
These are the coins with two different reverses, the bold one is considered rare or scarce.
1992 close AM, 1992 wide AM
1992D close AM, 1992 D wide AM
1998 close AM, 1998 wide AM
1998S close AM, 1998S wide AM
1999 close AM, 1999 wide AM
1999S close AM, 1999S wide AM
2000 close AM, 2000 wide AM
1988 RDV-005, 1988 RDV-006
1988D RDV-005, 1988D RDV-006
Those are the only known variations.
To aviod confusion 1989 cents are ONLY known to exist with the RDV-006. It was the 1989 RDV-005 that was debunked. I'm looking at it, framed on the shelf in front of me.
To aviod confusion 1989 cents are ONLY known to exist with the RDV-006. It was the 1989 RDV-005 that was debunked. I'm looking at it, framed on the shelf in front of me.
I was close. 1989 RDV-005 should have "delisted" next to it. http://www.varietyvista.com/lincoln_cent_RDV_changes.htm is a good resource though.
I also like:
http://www.varietyvista.com/san_francisco.htm
I look forward to their future postings.
So a 1989P RDV-006 is normal or rare?
car10
12-15-2007, 06:05 AM
So a 1989P RDV-006 is normal or rare?
The normal reverse design for any 1989 cent is the RDV-006. 1989 was the first year that this newly revised design saw widespread use. That is why the 1988 coins with RDV-006 are known as a transitional variety and are currently referred to as EX. RARE on the varietyvista website. They are out there to be found though as Patrick Gaughan and Brent Foster have most recently proven. So be sure to check each 1988 cent you come across for this exciting variety. You will want to be holding one of these in your collection when/if this variety gets included in the Cherrypicker's Guide.
The normal reverse design for any 1989 cent is the RDV-006. 1989 was the first year that this newly revised design saw widespread use. That is why the 1988 coins with RDV-006 are known as a transitional variety and are currently referred to as EX. RARE on the varietyvista website. They are out there to be found though as Patrick Gaughan and Brent Foster have most recently proven. So be sure to check each 1988 cent you come across for this exciting variety. You will want to be holding one of these in your collection when/if this variety gets included in the Cherrypicker's Guide.
David,
What about the early cents with RDV-001 thru 005? I don't hear too much about those ones? I suppose the muther of all rdv's would be the 1959 Wheat Cent. :tinysmile_hmm_t:
I imagine Variety Vista will eventually post RDV -001 thru 005. My guess is that there are no "transition" or rare reverses known.
car10
12-15-2007, 12:16 PM
Something else to look for. :tinysmile_hmm_t:
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