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lincolncollector
09-27-2008, 02:15 AM
I think I may have an inverted "S" 1946-S Lincoln cent. If so, how much is it worth in VF condition?
:squigglemouth:
Steven
09-27-2008, 04:41 AM
I'm not sure that there have ben enough of them auctioned to get a value at different grades. May have to do a bit of research on this unless someone here has a track on it. Have you got a good photo of the date and MM to post.
1sgret
09-27-2008, 06:28 AM
I think I may have an inverted "S" 1946-S Lincoln cent. If so, how much is it worth in VF condition?
:) You may want to contact "Trails" this Forum. I believe he is the first person who found this variety and he may have some additional information that he can share with you. You can also e-mail him at Wavysteps2003@aol.com as posted on his website.
There is a BU example for sale here: http://www.briansvarietycoins.com/shop/cat/10
It has been listed for a long time for $99.95
I would say that a VF example would be $50.
This varity is very rare, but not well known about.
mustbebob
09-27-2008, 10:09 AM
Since BJ Neff found the first one, I have found one as well but in a lower grade. From what I have gathered, there have been 6 reported as of Sept 1, 2008. There really hasn't been enough auction data or private sales to establish a price range. I would say that Brad's figures would be about right though.
lincolncollector
09-28-2008, 12:55 AM
I tried taking a picture with my Canon Powershot (using macro) but I can't seem to zoom in on the small "S" mint.
Try taking the picture through a magnifying glass or loupe. Hold the glass right up to the lens.
lincolncollector
09-28-2008, 01:50 AM
http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/lincolncollector/2008928_Lincoln-46S.jpg
Here is a pic of my 1946S inverted "S".
lincolncollector
09-28-2008, 03:01 AM
http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/lincolncollector/2008928_IMG_0241.JPG
http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/lincolncollector/2008928_IMG_0248.JPG
jcuve
09-28-2008, 06:13 AM
I have one of these inverted 'S' 1946 Lincolns(WIMM-001). The one shown looks sort-of similar to inverted ball serif knob-tail MMS-006 but is hard to tell without a really good picture or an in-hand examination.
I am very certain that it is not the same one shown in errorscope and the one Brian is selling. If you see it, the mintmark didn't seem to get punched straight in and the bottom portion is almost flush with the surface of the coin. Yours doesn't appear to do the the same but maybe it is a second die with the same inverted error?
lincolncollector
09-29-2008, 01:32 AM
How do you take a photo of a coin? Using flash, zoom, macro, ???? - please inform me of the best selections to choose. I have a Canon Powershot.
kloccwork419
09-29-2008, 06:00 AM
macro..I have Super Macro on my cam.. work great. Can get even closer to the coin..
jcuve
09-29-2008, 07:56 AM
A macro setting helps. Zoom works so long as the camera can focus on the coin. A TRIPOD is important and either use some type of shutter release cable/remote or set it on a TIMER. Any movement will impact the clarity of the shot.
I would also suggest experimenting with light - daylight can be good in certain circumstance. An external flash or a series of shots with the lights held in different places will yield distinctly separate results.
Jason
kloccwork419
09-29-2008, 06:16 PM
YES..Light is very important..I never tried the shutter or delay. Ill have to check it out..
Thank You
jcuve
09-29-2008, 08:39 PM
If you have a SLR or a DSLR you can buy a macro lens - they're expensive though. They also make reasonably priced attachable magnification lens. There's something else that's called a reversing ring where you reverse your normal lens and it acts like a macro lens.
But nothing seems to beat a scope with camera attached to it - sadly I don't have one of these.
Wheat Cents
10-06-2008, 06:58 PM
It has been listed for a long time for $99.95
I'd agree. A nice BU would price around a hundred or so. Have only seen a few in BU.
Own two BUs ... and they both look similar to the one in Brad's link... maybe a tad mushier...
JeanK
10-29-2008, 01:22 PM
This is the coin I have in my Wheat Cent album...
is it the same as or similar to the inverted S?
I am only asking because I feel if I have it in my album then it could not possibly be rare.:tinysmile_hmm_t:
JeanK
jcuve
10-29-2008, 01:35 PM
This is the coin I have in my Wheat Cent album...
is it the same as or similar to the inverted S?
I am only asking because I feel if I have it in my album then it could not possibly be rare.:tinysmile_hmm_t:
JeanK
Your coin looks like a sans serif 'trumpet tail' 'S' not an inverted ball serif 'S'
1sgret
10-29-2008, 03:23 PM
Here's another example for you to compare yours with.
trails
10-29-2008, 08:39 PM
To be honest with you it is hard to tell if your coin has the inverted mint mark. The position of the S looks good, but again, without the coin in hand, I can not say for sure. I have the inverted mint mark posted on the traildies.com web site also if you would care to make a comparison to that one.
BJ Neff
JeanK
10-30-2008, 12:08 AM
Thank you everyone for checking this over for me and offering your help.
I can see on Joe's picture the great difference of the top serif, being a 'trumpet' instead of a ball. Back in the album it goes.
JeanK
JeanK
10-30-2008, 08:24 AM
Hi Lincoln Collector,
I have a Canon Powershot SD850 IS Digital Elph.
Do not use flash. Use macro. Use ambient light as much as possible.
My desk lamps are one Ott-Lite and one regular light with a power saving bulb that has a rather yellowish glow. Either one can be used for photographing copper coins. Or you can use the lights together if need be.
The camera can usually get to about 1-1/2 inches from the coin and take a good picture for you. However, it is not self-focusing for macro, and you will need to experiment with the distance and how steady your hands are to get a sharp picture.
This camera does not have a connector for a remote tripper device, so a tripod can be a problem. I have not tried the time delay for photographing, but if you can figure it out it will probably be of benefit.
One other thing I recommend getting is an extra battery. If you use the camera at the highest resolution (also recommended) then the battery will loose a charge faster. Having a back up battery has been a blessing when the camera goes dim and I am in a groove taking pics.
You probably know more about your camera than I will ever learn about mine.
It has a lot of great features... and the bonus... no film to buy or have printed.
Good luck,
JeanK
morel
02-05-2009, 10:27 PM
Would you call this an inverted S.
jcuve
02-05-2009, 11:42 PM
Would you call this an inverted S.
I don't think so.
Going by that one pic it looks like it is the serif mintmark MMS-004 'trumpet tail'
LCR's San Fran. reference section:
http://www.lincolncentresource.com/San_Fransisco_Mintmark_Styles.html
1sgret
02-06-2009, 04:35 AM
Would you call this an inverted S.
Sorry, Jason is correct as it is not an Inverted Mint Mark.
trails
02-06-2009, 06:08 AM
I'll back that up; it is not the inverted mint mark. What you have is the serif mint mark.
BJ Neff
RWBILLER
02-06-2009, 11:19 AM
I agree with Brad - he is the expert with these.
thx
roger
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