2001 D Lincoln

[JeanK]

Never gonna give up trying.
Is this what I am suppose to look for when I want to find DDO/DDR's?
JeanK

[CCC]

You shouldn't give up. I do beleive it's MD. Safe to say that I could be wrong.

[JeanK]

Yeh David, but the doubling has a nice rounded look, it changes in width, and it... well, it may be the closest I have come to finding one myself. That must count for something, or another.
JeanK

[OCD]

I don't think it's a DDR either, but don't give up they're out there.....somewhere.....I think.:)

[CCC]

Yeh David, but the doubling has a nice rounded look, it changes in width, and it... well, it may be the closest I have come to finding one myself. That must count for something, or another.
JeanK

I did notice the rounded look you see. also I noticed the area on the letter's where it stopped. Perhap's Bob should look. This is different Jean. At least I have never seen it.

[trails]

There is another type of doubling not often discussed, but yet it does happen some of the times. Every once in a while a coin will stick to the die and the ejection arm actually rips the coin off the die face. It is referred to as ejection arm doubling. This is what I believe you are seeing here.

While there are different forms of machine doubling, they seem to be lumped under just that one heading "machine doubling".

BJ Neff

[JeanK]

David and Jeremy, thanks for being supportive of my efforts.

BJ, and much thanks to you for your kind explanation of my find.

There are so many little nuances that I cannot detect between my example and many in my copy of the book "The Authoritative Reference On Lincoln Cents" by Wexler and Flynn. For example, the 1991 LCDDR-001, or the 1964 LCDDR-009. Can anyone elaborate on these differences?

And thanks for everyone for being so patient with my attempts.
JeanK

[1gtsfan]

a nice machine doubled Lincoln is worth $1-2 in avg condition. not bad if you got the coin for a penny. On dates that do have doubled dies they are a bit more. example 1969s, 1983p. i can't tell the difference sometimes. probably because i haven't found a real one for sure.

[trails]

A nice machine doubling for $1.00 or 2.00, Hmmmmm! How about up to a $100.00 and over for a 1969-S Lincoln cent with machine doubling.

While most of these random anomalies are described as a "double die" (notice the spelling) in the write ups, they are not a doubled die. That is where the trap lies; some do not have the knowledge to confirm if it is a doubled die that they are getting or it is not. So they bid and bid again and again, afraid that they are missing out on the deal of the century. However, let us be real, a $100,000.00 coin for $100.00 dollars! Only on EBay.

This also holds true for the 1955 Lincoln cent known as the "poor man's " double die. To buy a VLDS coin because it has a very small similarity to a well known doubled die is foolish and yet, I have seen these go for over $20.00. Again., only on EBay. Or, how about a 1953 Lincoln cent with die deterioration doubling (VLDS) for close to the same price and why? Because it looks like the 1955 doubled die!!!!!!

The whole point of this is to know what a doubled die is and not to jump on the first thing that looks like one just because someone said it is. Machine doubling is neat and some extreme cases may have a premium attached, however, the run of the mill, the more common ones picked out of a pile of cents, the ones being sold on EBay are not worth but face value.

BJ Neff

[dglotzbach]

Jean,

Some of the examles you provided look an awful lot like "Die Deterioration Doubling" as it is described in The Cherrypicker's Guide to Rare Die Varieties (my copy is 4th ed of Vol. 1). This section in the book provides a good description of the process which leads to "Die Deterioration Doubling", along with photos that are similar to yours. What especially caught my eye in your pictures was the appearance of doubling on both sides of the letters, and this is a key indicator as described in the Cherrypickers book to this type of doubling.

Neat stuff in any event!

[1sgret]

I would have to agree with "Die Deterioration Doubling" also. I would consider this a nice example.

[JeanK]

Thanks everyone!
I think I will keep it because it looks rather nice.
Off to do more hunting.
JeanK