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Brad
06-25-2009, 06:23 AM
With the help of Klockwork I finally was able to list all the new and old CPG numbers. Take a look. If you see anything that looks wrong, let me know. This will be posted on the main site soon. It will be formatted nicer when it is on the main site.




Cherrypickers Guide to Die Varieties Number System

Date Variety New # Old #
1909 VDB DDO 1 FS-1101 (FS-012)
1909 VDB DDO 2 FS-1102 (FS-012.1)
1909 S RPM 1 FS-1501 (FS-012.2)
1909 S RPM 2 FS-1502 (FS-012.3)
1910 S RPM 1 FS-501 new
1910 S RPM 2 FS-502 (FS-012.7)
1911 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-012.8)
1911 D RPM 2 FS-502 (FS-012.81)
1911 D RPM 3 FS-503 (FS-012.82)
1911 D RPM 4 FS-504 (FS-012.83)
1911 S RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-012.85)
1917 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-013)
1922 NO D FS-401 (FS-013.2)
1925 S DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-013.3)
1925 S RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-013.31)
1927 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-013.5)
1927 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-013.51)
1928 S Large S FS-501 (FS-013.6)
1929 S RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-013.65)
1930 D RPM 1 FS-501 new
1930 D RPM 2 FS-502 (FS-013.7)
1930 S RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-013.73)
1934 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-013.79)
1934 D RPM 3 FS-503 (FS-013.81)
1934 D RPM 4 FS-504 (FS-013.8)
1935 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-013.9)
1936 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-014)
1936 DDO 2 FS-102 (FS-015)
1936 DDO 3 FS-103 (FS-016)
1938 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-016.4)
1938 S RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-016.51)
1938 S RPM 2 FS-502 (FS-016.5)
1939 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-017)
1941 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-018)
1941 DDO 2 FS-102 (FS-018.1)
1941 DDO 5 FS-103 (FS-018.3)
1942 DDO 4 FS-102 (FS-018.7)
1942 DDO 6 FS-103 (FS-018.9)
1942 D RPM 2 FS-502 (FS-018.91)
1942 D RPM 4 FS-504 (FS-018.92)
1942 S DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-018.94)
1942 S RPM 12 FS-512 (FS-018.93)
1943 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-018.97)
1943 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-019)
1943 D RPM 13 FS-513 (FS-019.1)
1943 S DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-019.5)
1944 D RPM 1 FS-502 (FS-021.1)
1944 D RPM 7 FS-507 (FS-021.11)
1944 D/S OMM 1 FS-511 (FS-020)
1944 D/S OMM 2 FS-512 (FS-021)
1946 S/D OMM 1 FS-511 (FS-021.2)
1947 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-021.3)
1947 S RPM 4 FS-504 (FS-021.31)
1949 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-021.33)
1950 S RPM 4 FS-504 (FS-021.34)
1951 proof DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-021.35)
1951 D DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-021.4)
1951 D OMM 1 FS-511 (FS-021.5)
1951 D OMM 2 FS-512 (FS-021.52)
1951 D D in 5 FS-521 (FS-021.51)
1952 D OMM 1 FS-511 (FS-021.6)
1953 proof DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-021.7)
1953 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-021.73)
1954 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-021.76)
1955 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-021.8)
1955 DDO 2 FS-102 (FS-021.9)
1955 D DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-021.93)
1955 D RPM 3 FS-503 (FS-021.94)
1955 D Horiz RPM FS-511 (FS-021.95)
1955 S RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-021.97)
1956 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-022.1)
1956 D RPM 8 FS-508 (FS-022)
1958 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-022.15)
1959 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-022.2)
1959 DDO 4 FS-104 (FS-022.3)
1959 D RPM 1 FS-508 (FS-022.5)
1960 proof DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-025)
1960 proof DDO 2 FS-102 (FS-024)
1960 proof DDO 3 FS-103 (FS-023)
1960 D DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-025.5)
1961 D RPM 1 FS-501 new
1960 D DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-025.8)
1964 DDR 1 FS-801 (FS-026)
1964 DDR 58 FS-802 (FS-027)
1964 DDR 20 FS-803 new
1966 DDO 20 FS-101 new
1968 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-027.3)
1968 D DDR 1 FS-801 (FS-027.4)
1968 S DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-027.5)
1969 D No FG FS-901 new
1969 S DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-028)
1970 S DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-029)
1970 S proof DDO 3 FS-102 (FS-030)
1970 S DDO 5 FS-103 (FS-030.1)
1970 S proof DDO 7 FS-107 (FS-030.4)
1970 S proof DDO 13 FS-113 (FS-030.6)
1970 S small date FS-1401 (FS-030.2)
1970 S proof small date FS-1402 (FS-030.2)
1971 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-031)
1971 DDO ? FS-102 (FS-030.7)
1971 S proof DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-032)
1971 S proof DDO 2 FS-101 (FS-033)
1971 S proof DDO 3 FS-101 (FS-033.1)
1972 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-033.3)
1972 DDO 2 FS-102 (FS-033.52)
1972 DDO 3 FS-103 (FS-033.53)
1972 DDO 4 FS-104 (FS-033.54)
1972 DDO 5 FS-105 (FS-033.55)
1972 DDO 6 FS-106 (FS-033.56)
1972 DDO 7 FS-107 (FS-033.57)
1972 DDO 8 FS-108 (FS-033.58)
1972 DDO 9 FS-109 (FS-033.59)
1972 S proof DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-033.7)
1980 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-034)
1980 D OMM 1 FS-000 (FS-034.1)
1982 large DDO 2 FS-101 (FS-034.5)
1982 small DDR 2 FS-1801 new
1983 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-035)
1983 DDO 2 FS-102 (FS-035.1)
1983 DDO 3 FS-103 (FS-035.2)
1983 clash/cud FS-401 (FS-035.3)
1983 DDR 1 FS-801 (FS-036)
1984 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-037)
1984 DDO 2 FS-102 (FS-038)
1984 D DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-039)
1990 proof No S FS-101 new
1992 D Close AM FS-901 new
1994 DDR 1 FS-801 (FS-039.9)
1995 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-040)
1995 D DDO 3 FS-101 (FS-041)
1997 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-043)
1998 Wide AM FS-901 new
1999 Wide AM FS-901 new
2000 Wide AM FS-901 new
1999 S Close AM FS-901 new
2000 S Close AM FS-901 new (should be í98)

AgCollector
06-25-2009, 06:40 AM
What about numbers after 2000?

jcuve
06-25-2009, 06:45 AM
Nice work Brad and Jason! This will be a big help!

Not to make this anymore complicated, but if the final list also had columns for the other major designations (i.e., Crawford, Coppercoins & Wexler), if known, that would be helpful.

Is "1971 DDO ? FS-102 (FS-030.7)" still listed in the CPG? Everyone delisted that coin ages ago. I don't think it should be included in the final list.

And, some of the DDO #s are wrong because CONECA changed the numbers after the 4th edition. Not sure how many are impacted, but I know off the top of my head 1959P FS-022.3 is no longer listed as DDO-004, but has been changed to DDO-002.

jcuve
06-25-2009, 06:48 AM
Okay, to further my comment about CONECA's #s, I would suggest someone go through and double check all of them with the current database. Maybe it could be broken into sections and different LCR members could help. I can help this afternoon...

AgCollector
06-25-2009, 07:02 AM
Okay, to further my comment about CONECA's #s, I would suggest someone go through and double check all of them with the current database. Maybe it could be broken into sections and different LCR members could help. I can help this afternoon...

I know the 1982 DDO also changed numbers on CONECA from 2 to 1.

kloccwork419
06-25-2009, 09:29 AM
What about numbers after 2000?


Thats as far as the CPG goes. Even thought they have numbers for the rest, they didnt publish them:squigglemouth:

and 59 1c-022.3 is 2-0-II so alot of them might have to be crossed with Coppercoins becuz they seem to have the right one but CPG dont

The DDO-004 is what it shows in the new CPG. :tinysmile_hmm_t2:

jcuve
06-25-2009, 09:48 AM
The DDO-004 is what it shows in the new CPG. :tinysmile_hmm_t2:

That's just another strike against the 5th edition!:tinysmile_cry_t3:

I think, in vol. 2 4th edition, in the back somewhere, they had a list (with no pictures) of a few newer Lincoln DDs that, for whatever reason, were not included in vol. 1 5th edition like the 2006-101 and 2004-801

Brad
06-25-2009, 10:16 AM
Also some of the number have changed since the vol. 2 4th edition (in the back).

For instance...1951 d/s omm 1 was FS-501 and now it is FS-511. All the omms have had 3 different numbers.

jcuve
06-25-2009, 10:37 AM
I fixed all the DDs as per the listing on CONECA's website (I have a formatted copy in Excel):

Date CONECA CPG # OLD #
1909 VDB DDO 1 FS-1101 (FS-012) (why isn't this 101?)
1909 VDB DDO 2 FS-1102 (FS-012.1) (why isn't this 102?)
1909 S RPM 1 FS-1501 (FS-012.2)
1909 S RPM 2 FS-1502 (FS-012.3)
1910 S RPM 1 FS-501 new
1910 S RPM 2 FS-502 (FS-012.7)
1911 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-012.8)
1911 D RPM 2 FS-502 (FS-012.81)
1911 D RPM 3 FS-503 (FS-012.82)
1911 D RPM 4 FS-504 (FS-012.83)
1911 S RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-012.85)
1917 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-013)
1922 NO D FS-401 (FS-013.2)
1925 S DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-013.3)
1925 S RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-013.31)
1927 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-013.5)
1927 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-013.51)
1928 S LG S FS-501 (FS-013.6)
1929 S RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-013.65)
1930 D RPM 1 FS-501 new
1930 D RPM 2 FS-502 (FS-013.7)
1930 S RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-013.73)
1934 not listed FS-101 (FS-013.79)
1934 D RPM 3 FS-503 (FS-013.81)
1934 D RPM 4 FS-504 (FS-013.8)
1935 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-013.9)
1936 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-014)
1936 DDO 2 FS-102 (FS-015)
1936 DDO 3 FS-103 (FS-016)
1938 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-016.4)
1938 S RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-016.51)
1938 S RPM 2 FS-502 (FS-016.5)
1939 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-017)
1941 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-018)
1941 DDO 2 FS-102 (FS-018.1)
1941 DDO 5 FS-103 (FS-018.3)
1942 DDO 4 FS-102 (FS-018.7)
1942 DDO 6 FS-103 (FS-018.9)
1942 D RPM 2 FS-502 (FS-018.91)
1942 D RPM 4 FS-504 (FS-018.92)
1942 S DDO 1 RPM 1 FS-101 (FS-018.94)
1942 S RPM 12 FS-512 (FS-018.93)
1943 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-018.97)
1943 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-019)
1943 D RPM 13 FS-513 (FS-019.1)
1943 S DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-019.5)
1944 D RPM 1 FS-502 (FS-021.1)
1944 D RPM 7 FS-507 (FS-021.11)
1944D/S OMM 1 FS-511 (FS-020)
1944D/S OMM 2 FS-512 (FS-021)
1946S/D OMM 1 FS-511 (FS-021.2)
1947 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-021.3)
1947 S RPM 4 FS-504 (FS-021.31)
1949 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-021.33)
1950 S RPM 4 FS-504 (FS-021.34)
1951pr DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-021.35)
1951 D DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-021.4)
1951 D OMM 1 FS-511 (FS-021.5)
1951 D OMM 2 FS-512 (FS-021.52)
1951 D D in 5 FS-521 (FS-021.51)
1952 D OMM 1 FS-511 (FS-021.6)
1953pr DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-021.7)
1953 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-021.73)
1954 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-021.76)
1955 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-021.8)
1955 DDO 2 FS-102 (FS-021.9)
1955 D DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-021.93)
1955 D RPM 3 FS-503 (FS-021.94)
1955 D RPM FS-511 (FS-021.95)
1955 S RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-021.97)
1956 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-022.1)
1956 D RPM 8 FS-508 (FS-022)
1958 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-022.15)
1959 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-022.2)
1959 DDO 2 FS-104? (FS-022.3)
1959 D RPM 1 FS-508 (FS-022.5)
1960pf DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-025)
1960pf DDO 2 FS-102 (FS-024)
1960pf DDO 3 FS-103 (FS-023)
1960 D DDO 1 RPM 100 FS-101 (FS-025.5)
1961 D RPM 1 FS-501 new
1963 D DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-025.8)
1964 DDR 1 F S-801 (FS-026)
1964 DDR 20 (was 58) FS-802 (FS-027)
1964 DDR 20 (dupe?) FS-803 new
1966 DDO 1 FS-101 new
1968 D RPM 1 FS-501 (FS-027.3)
1968 D DDR 1 FS-801 (FS-027.4)
1968 S DDO 5 FS-101 (FS-027.5)
1969 D No FG FS-901 new
1969 S DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-028)
1970 S DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-029)
1970 S PF DDO 3 FS-102 (FS-030)
1970 S DDO 5 FS-103 (FS-030.1)
1970 S PF DDO 7 FS-107 (FS-030.4)
1970 S PF DDO 13 FS-113 (FS-030.6)
1970 S sm dt FS-1401 (FS-030.2)
1970 S PF sm dt FS-1402 (FS-030.2)
1971 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-031)
1971 S PF DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-032)
1971 S PF DDO 2 FS-101 (FS-033)
1971 S PF DDO 4 FS-101 (FS-033.1)
1972 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-033.3)
1972 DDO 2 FS-102 (FS-033.52)
1972 DDO 3 FS-103 (FS-033.53)
1972 DDO 4 FS-104 (FS-033.54)
1972 DDO 5 FS-105 (FS-033.55)
1972 DDO 6 FS-106 (FS-033.56)
1972 DDO 7 FS-107 (FS-033.57)
1972 DDO 8 FS-108 (FS-033.58)
1972 DDO 9 FS-109 (FS-033.59)
1972 S PF DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-033.7)
1980 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-034)
1980 D OMM 1 FS-000 (FS-034.1)
1982 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-034.5)
1982 DDR 1 FS-1801 new
1983 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-035)
1983 DDO 2 FS-102 (FS-035.1)
1983 DDO 3 FS-103 (FS-035.2)
1983 cs h/cud FS-401 (FS-035.3)
1983 DDR 1 FS-801 (FS-036)
1984 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-037)
1984 DDO 2 FS-102 (FS-038)
1984 D DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-039)
1990 pf No S FS-101 new
1992 D Close AM FS-901 new
1994 DDR 1 FS-801 (FS-039.9)
1995 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-040)
1995 D DDO 3 FS-101 (FS-041)
1997 DDO 1 FS-101 (FS-043)
1998 Wide AM FS-901 new
1999 Wide AM FS-901 new
2000 Wide AM FS-901 new
1998 S Close AM FS-901 new
1999 S Close AM FS-901 new
2004 DDR 1 FS-801 new
2006 DDR 4 FS-101 new

nightowl
06-25-2009, 10:50 AM
Why does everyone keep playing this numbers game. I use to wonder why someone would bother to have an RPM slabbed to just say D/D OR S/S with no number. No wonder cause todays RPM-001 will be RPM-078 tomorrow.
Best thing to do is have your coin slabbed D/D S/S OMM DDO DDR whatever it might be and place a piece of tape on the back of the slab to write todays number on. Easy to change later.
No wonder you cant find something when you look it up. Joe

nightowl
06-25-2009, 10:54 AM
My 46 S/D is being slabbed as I write with the wrong FS number on it. Joe

Brad
06-25-2009, 11:46 AM
My 46 S/D is being slabbed as I write with the wrong FS number on it. Joe

I did that too. They will right the new number on it. It will not be a problem.

RWBILLER
06-25-2009, 12:52 PM
GReat Job - thankyou very much - i will use this!
roger

eaxtellcoin
06-26-2009, 09:20 AM
1980 D OMM 1 FS-000 (FS-034.1)
This coin if I remember correctly was ommited by the die variety attributer's as die damage, are you sure they are re-listing it?

dvn
06-26-2009, 09:45 AM
1980 D OMM 1 FS-000 (FS-034.1)
This coin if I remember correctly was ommited by the die variety attributer's as die damage, are you sure they are re-listing it?

That is de-listed in my files as it is a cluster of die gouges. Though I can't speak for other attributers, but I believe it was de-listed by them also.

Billy (dvn)

Brad
06-26-2009, 12:07 PM
I will make a note about the delisted varieties.

kloccwork419
06-26-2009, 12:10 PM
It is removed. Thats why its # is 000. The one in () is the old number before it was delisted. Its more of a reference