Discussion of ANACS it history - reputation etc.

[Wheat Cents]

Years a go ANACS was headquatered in Colorado springs. I assume it was an arm of the ANA. I know way back it was the only place to get a coin "certified" as genuine. Here is a blast from the past. A picture of how they used to certify 'em. Any one come across these certifieds any more?


Any one know more about its history? It had fallen out of favor because why?

Also see lots of "new" looking plastic slabs from ANACS and they are cracked. Not tampered with mind you just cracked..

Here is a pic of the cracked Anacs slab . It did not have any great variety or expensive coin it it. I have never seen this on say a PCGS , ICG, NGC , or SEGS.

[AgCollector]

I don't know much about them but that's an interesting old slab- thanks for sharing!

[Wheat Cents]

I am sure there is alot to be "told" of ANACS fall from the grace from either the collectors but more likely the dealers..

Would like to start some conversatons about who uses what and why? Cost? reputation ? resale value? Variety "experts" PCI SEGS etc.. but probably could be sepearate topics..

[AgCollector]

I am sure there is alot to be "told" of ANACS fall from the grace from either the collectors but more likely the dealers..

Would like to start some conversatons about who uses what and why? Cost? reputation ? resale value? Variety "experts" PCI SEGS etc.. but probably could be sepearate topics..

I have never had anything certified but have often thought I would use ANACS because of the range of varieties they certify as well as cost, reputation and resale value. NGC, unfortunately, doesn't even recognize the 1997 doubled ear cent.

[Brad]

I only use ANACS for certification. I think that it is a very good company. Unlike PCGS, NGC and IGC they certify almost every Lincoln Cent Variety. Their costs are low if you use the economy service. I own a little over 100 certified coins, and 68 of them are from ANACS. I beleive that they are just a rigorous as PCGS, NGC and IGC when it comes to grading coins. The reason PCGS and NGC coins sell for more is the registry sets, and the fact that they work hard on keeping a solid reputation. When it comes to key dates and a coins of high value, PCGS and NGC coins sell for more. For coins worth less than $100, it is a little tricky. Lets say you are buying a 1922 D cent in XF from Ebay and you want it certified. The coin lists for $35. Here are your options. You can buy a PCGS certifed example, but they sell for $60 on Ebay. You can buy a NGC example, but they sell for $50 on Ebay. You can buy an ANACS or IGC example for $40 on Ebay. You could buy a uncertifed example for $35 on Ebay. Certification will cost you $18+ from PCGS & NGC, $15+ from ICG, or $12+ from ANACS. Keep in mind, that if the coin has a "problem" you will not get your $ back.

PCGS $60 or $35 + $18
NGC $50 or $35 + $18
IGC $40 or $35 + $15
ANACS $40 or $35 + $12

Now, here is the thing that you need to be aware of. If you resell the coin to a dealer, they will pay $30 or less. If you sell on your own, you may get the same price you paid (if prices stay the same).

My advice has been, if you want certifed coins. Use ANACS for varieties and coins valued under $100. Use PCGS or NGC for key dates and high value coins. Also, if you want a PCGS certified 1909 S VDB. You need to decide if it is better to buy an example and send it to PCGS or just buy an example that is already certified. The risk with sending it in is that it may come back bodybaged for whatever reason. The risk with buying a coin that is already certified is that you will most likely pay more than the coin is listed at.

Anyhow, I like ANACS. If I had millions of $'s I would buy only PCGS coins. I have less than $'s and ANACS works for me.

As far as the cracks in the slabs. I have not noticed ANACS having more cracks. None of mine have cracks.

[Brad]

I have never had anything certified but have often thought I would use ANACS because of the range of varieties they certify as well as cost, reputation and resale value. NGC, unfortunately, doesn't even recognize the 1997 doubled ear cent.


NGC's "variety plus" is just dumb.

[Wheat Cents]

Well that was my concern. With regrad to many varieties I do not wish to certify like wide AMs and 1995 DDOs, who cares... Just begin posting pages of uncertified though easily attributable varieties in albums and sent the early ones and HG ones to the bank. There are many in the bank like 1994 DDR the 1946-S/D The 1943-D RPM#1 and other TOP 10s and 100's all in extremly high grade. Which are over due and would like to bite the bullet do them in one fell swoop. Was considering SEGs years ago but ANACS seems like it would be OK. However once they are done they are done. No going back, it costs too much.

[Wheat Cents]

Thanks for chiming in on the topic Brad.

I felt it should be ANACS as I have always used them in the past. So think it is the way to go.

[car10]

There are many in the bank like 1999 DDR...
...Never found a 1999 DDR looking though spare change.

Wheat, you mention a 1999 DDR in two different threads. At first I thought you meant to say 1999 wide AM but then you said it again. What elements of the '99 are doubled? I might like to add this to my list of varieties to look for while searching bank-rolled coins.

[trails]

The way some grading companies are bouncing around as far as ownership and location, you need a score card to keep track.

I too liked ANACS until the big switchero that happened around Christmas time of 2007. I knew more than a few people who did work for the "old" ANACS, now I am not to sure who is working where or for whom. And that is the key.

It is not the company that grades the coin, it is the fellow looking at the coin that does that and here is where the trust should lay. When Mike Ellis worked for ANACS, I trusted his calls on variety and grades for I knew that he knew what he was doing. Mike does not work for ANACS any more, nor does Randy Campbell, who I have had the pleasure of meeting and having more than a few pleasant conversations with; I also trusted Randy's abilities on grading.

Presently, I am holding off encapsulating any type of error or variety coin until the field becomes settled and the players identified. I take PCGS and NGC out of this equation since they are (or seemingly) rock stable, however, their list of varieties that they will encapsulate is limited by the Cherrypicker's guide. But then again, that list is growing and will expand with the additions of new Cherrypicker's guides.

So, it now appears that the waiting game is in place and hopefully one company shall emerge with the trust once held in the encapsulation of variety coins.

BJ Neff

[Wheat Cents]

Probably good advice and some insight as to personel to which I would have no idea about. I won't run off and send 'em to ANACS just yet .

Here is an example of the value of LCR Forum .

Thanks Trails

[Wheat Cents]

Car10

My bad ... had 98/99/2000 Wides on the brain when talking about family and friends spare change and finds w / Snowman.

http://www.lincolncentresource.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3956#post3956

The DDR from a rolls was a 94 not 99 .

Sorry , it must have been too early in the morning. I made the correction in the earlier thread above.

[car10]

That 1994 DDR is in beautiful condition. MS66RD at least.

[Wheat Cents]

Yes, it is a nice one...

The 94DDR along with a few others like my 43D RPM1 , 46S/D ,43S DDO-001 and 1942-S RPM1 DDOs , I'd like to slab.

Just trying to decide which service gets the job.
Does PCGS designate at least the above variities?

One drawback I see is, I probably will not be able to get photos like this any longer.... y/n?

[Brad]

Most of my photos on the website are through the slabs. I have no problems. That is a really nice 1943 D/D rpm 1. What grade do you think it is? As far as I know PCGS certifies all CPG varieties.

[CCC]

I must say that I am very impressed with everyone's find's through out the year's. I have been searching for only 3 years and I learn something new every day.


CCC

[DWK]

Wow! That 94 DDR is a beauty, much nicer than mine. Has brad seen it? I think he'll salivate.

[Wheat Cents]

Most of my photos on the website are through the slabs. I have no problems. That is a really nice 1943 D/D rpm 1. What grade do you think it is? As far as I know PCGS certifies all CPG varieties.


Brad.. That is good news. As I have mentioned before this QX3 microscope does not do slabs and the Microtek scanner does not get the depth or richness. I'll need to evaluate a better process and equipment. I think Billy Crawfords are some of the best. I think he mentions on his Die Variety News site what he uses.

If PCGS does all the CPG then that would be the way to go. With PCGS , you can't go wrong if you needed to resell it. Regarding the grade , I would hope this 43D RPM1 would grade at least an MS64 at PCGS. Other services would not have a problem with a 65 grade. However, I have heard horror stories and for that matter some surprise stories what grade they thought they'd get and what came back.

That 43D was not cherried. I bought it from a long time Variety Expert who I made aquaintance about ten years ago.

[Wheat Cents]

Brad,

What are you using to get good pics of the slabbed ones?

[Brad]

Brad,

What are you using to get good pics of the slabbed ones?

I use three things to get images. An Epson Scanner, A Canon Powershot SD1000 with a loupe, and a stereomicroscope with a digital camera. I don't know the brand of the stereomicroscope or camera.

It looks exactly like this one http://cgi.ebay.com/5X-10X-15X-30X-COIN-MICROSCOPE-BOOM-LIGHT-CAMERA_W0QQitemZ170137543866QQihZ007QQcategoryZ582 92QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l124 7QQcmdZViewItem

[Brad]

I think Billy Crawfords are some of the best.

I totally agree. However, I think his pics are so good, they make relatively minor doubling look a lot bolder than it is. His pics make make people think that a 2006 ddo is as bold as the 1955 ddo.

[Brad]

Wow! That 94 DDR is a beauty, much nicer than mine. Has brad seen it? I think he'll salivate.

That is a nice one. If anyone has a 1994 DDR to trade or sell, let me know.

[Wheat Cents]

I use three things to get images. An Epson Scanner, A Canon Powershot SD1000 with a loupe, and a stereomicroscope with a digital camera. I don't know the brand of the stereomicroscope or camera.

It looks exactly like this one http://cgi.ebay.com/5X-10X-15X-30X-COIN-MICROSCOPE-BOOM-LIGHT-CAMERA_W0QQitemZ170137543866QQihZ007QQcategoryZ582 92QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l124 7QQcmdZViewItem


Thanks for the info Brad.

[Wheat Cents]

.... With PCGS , you can't go wrong if you needed to resell it.

or maybe you can?

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