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hehehe.. So out in the world of lincolns we have errors among errors, rpms, etc..etc..
I'm curious of why some make it into the RedBook and others don't? Is there a official rhyme or reason for this?
Shingpumps
12-01-2007, 07:38 PM
I wanna know why the 1992D Close AMs still listed for $500 in the Red Book.
The most popular varieties make the Red Book. Obviously they can't list every variety. What bothers me is when they list a coin, but give no prices.
The Red Book is good for beginners, but is really not an accurate price guide. The moment it is printed the prices are out-dated.
I wanna know why the 1992D Close AMs still listed for $500 in the Red Book.
Isn't that how much you want to sell yours to me for?
The most popular varieties make the Red Book. Obviously they can't list every variety. What bothers me is when they list a coin, but give no prices.
The Red Book is good for beginners, but is really not an accurate price guide. The moment it is printed the prices are out-dated.
Brad what would be the best source for prices of errors and variety coins?
Brad what would be the best source for prices of errors and variety coins?
There really is none. This is what I do: I look the coin up in as many references as I can. Like the Cherrypicker's guide. Then I look at any stores that may sell that coin, and see what they are selling it for. Then I watch Ebay, Teletrade, and Heratige, and see what they are selling for. I try to educate myself as much as possible.
For coins like the 1955 double die getting prices is easy.
For coins like 1955 S/S/S rpm 1 it is a little more difficult.
I was thinking about adding a variety price guide to my site... but I would only be for the top 50 or so.
So basically your making the Lincoln Cent Resource Street Price..:)
car10
03-21-2008, 07:32 PM
I was thinking about adding a variety price guide to my site... but I would only be for the top 50 or so.
So basically your making the Lincoln Cent Resource Street Price..:)
Brad, I noticed the 1994 DDR fs-039.9 didn't make the cut. I also noticed you're interested in getting one.
Have you researched the prices at all? If so what conclusions have you reached as to it's value? I'm mostly curious because I own one (NGC MS65RD) that I found in a circulated roll. It's really difficult to find accurate values for some of these varieties.
AgCollector
03-21-2008, 09:12 PM
Brad, I noticed the 1994 DDR fs-039.9 didn't make the cut. I also noticed you're interested in getting one.
Have you researched the prices at all? If so what conclusions have you reached as to it's value? I'm mostly curious because I own one (NGC MS65RD) that I found in a circulated roll. It's really difficult to find accurate values for some of these varieties.
Not that you're asking me, but I have found Potter and Allen's "Strike it rich with pocket change" to have fairly accurate prices for the varieties I sell or see sold, so I'd say the 1994 is around $80 circulated and $150+ in your case.
car10
03-21-2008, 09:25 PM
Thanks John.
AgCollector
03-22-2008, 05:56 AM
Guess I was a little low- here are some old auction results I found I had saved:
PCGS MS65 Red - $306
PCGS MS64 Red - $195
PCI MS62 R/B - $238
car10
03-22-2008, 07:06 AM
Maybe Mr. Potter was trying to depress the price looking to stock up on some. NGC shows a total population of only thirty-four pieces graded. Does anyone know the pops from other grading services?
Brad, I noticed the 1994 DDR fs-039.9 didn't make the cut. I also noticed you're interested in getting one.
Have you researched the prices at all? If so what conclusions have you reached as to it's value? I'm mostly curious because I own one (NGC MS65RD) that I found in a circulated roll. It's really difficult to find accurate values for some of these varieties.
I am interested in getting one. I think that the 1994 ddr is the 4th best ddr in the series after 1983 ddr 1, 1982 ddr 1, and 1964 ddr 1. It is listed in the CPG, but it is not on the PCGS price guide or the Quick Reference to the Top Die Varieties. It is definitely a great doubled die. As far as prices go, I would say $50 for an AU, $80 for MS 62, $125 for MS 64, and $150+ for MS 65. These are not up for sale often, so it is difficult to get a good handle on prices. If you are interested is selling or trading yours let me know. I am going to add this variety to my site as soon as I get one, and can take some good pictures.
Funny you mention this, because I just gambled on one on Ebay. I paid $11.50 for it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170203135769&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=007
trails
03-22-2008, 10:13 AM
One other source to add to your list for finding variety prices is "PCGS" price guide. While they tend to list only the majors, still it is a start.
BJ Neff
trails
03-22-2008, 10:17 AM
Brad - Just took a look at the auction you linked. That is something else and I do hope that it is the one.
BJ Neff
Brad - Just took a look at the auction you linked. That is something else and I do hope that it is the one.
BJ Neff
No matter what, there is a 7 day return privilege.
If it is not a 1994 ddr, I will return it.
If it is a 1994 ddr, but corroded/damaged etc. I can sell it or return it.
If it is a 1994 ddr and problem free, I will keep it.
We'll see soon.
car10
03-22-2008, 11:06 AM
I also checked that auction. It looks like you may have found a super deal there. The seller has had 100% happy customers and even though the auction doesn't have a photo none of his past auctions seem to have had one either. This guy may be costing himself a fortune by not posting photos. From the description alone it looks like you made a great gamble on this one. For $11.50 with a reasonable return policy you can't go wrong. Let us know how you make out.
I also checked that auction. It looks like you may have found a super deal there. The seller has had 100% happy customers and even though the auction doesn't have a photo none of his past auctions seem to have had one either. This guy may be costing himself a fortune by not posting photos. From the description alone it looks like you made a great gamble on this one. For $11.50 with a reasonable return policy you can't go wrong. Let us know how you make out.
It was a BUY-IT-NOW for $10.00 with $1.50 shipping. It was not an auction.
If it is the real thing, can you beleive that?
Brad:
Good luck. Lets see the pics when you get it.
By the way; A dealer friend gave mine a bath. The green stuff came right off. He said it was PVC. It looks pretty good now. If yours doesn't pan out, let me know and i'll post some new pics of mine.
Wheat Cents
03-24-2008, 06:29 PM
Can't beat that price...
car10
03-24-2008, 07:08 PM
Great buy, too bad about the road rash.
Now I have to decide what to do with it. I'm not going to keep it.
Wheat Cents
03-24-2008, 07:43 PM
The REV is OK.. just the OBV. Split it in two and join it with an AU 1994 OBV. but be careful , you don't want to get a get a mule.. :tinysmile_hmm_t:
Seriously , if that coin had to have a bad side the OBV was where it should be. Just take a picture of the reverse , for memories ....
car10
03-24-2008, 08:32 PM
Now I have to decide what to do with it. I'm not going to keep it.
You could return it because it was described as having "slight deterioration" on the obverse. This is clearly more than slight deterioration. I think you would turn a profit however if you listed the coin with the proper designation and included photographs. I think someone would be willing to add this scarce variety to their collection at a modest price. The reverse is in great shape. I would think you would have no problem at least doubling your money.
AgCollector
03-25-2008, 04:57 AM
You could return it because it was described as having "slight deterioration" on the obverse. This is clearly more than slight deterioration. I think you would turn a profit however if you listed the coin with the proper designation and included photographs. I think someone would be willing to add this scarce variety to their collection at a modest price. The reverse is in great shape. I would think you would have no problem at least doubling your money.
I think you're right, I bet you could get $20 on eBay for it, with good pictures.
I think you're right, I bet you could get $20 on eBay for it, with good pictures.
That is probably what I am going to do. The worst I could do is break even. I will place it on Ebay, unless someone here has an interesting trade to offer.
Wheat Cents
03-25-2008, 08:47 AM
I agree. It was not a waste and you have a nice photo of the Reverse.
Hey... some of us just look better photographed from the back. :angel:
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