Question about Cherrios

[erwizard]

If you find a 2000 Lincoln in circulation, is there a way to determine whether or not it was one of the "Cherrio" cents? :nerd:

[brefos77]

No. THe only way to tell is if it were still in it's original "Limited Edition" pack. I've got one that I'll post pictures of later. It's really not that special when you compare it to the Cheerio's dollar. Now that's worth searchng for, and you can tell the difference without the original package.

http://www.coinlink.com/CoinGuide/patterns/2000-cheerios-sacagawea-dollar/

[Wheat Cents]

I have seen NGC slabs w/ Cherrios designations.

[Brad]

A lot of the 2000 cherrios cents turned about to be Wide AM's. Also, some of the 2000 dollars turned about to be a early ‘high detail’ feather variety. Otherwise, they are the same.

Read this http://dig4coins.com/news/latest/golden-coins-from-cheerios-still-valuable.html

[snowman]

Brad - i've never heard or seen of any Cheerios cents having a wide am variety- do you have any pics or links on this ??

for me the only real way to tell if its a wide am if its in the top 3 graded slabs or like this ?? Snowman

[brefos77]

Mine is showing the obverse, so I can't tell anyway. Grrr!

[car10]

Mine was showing the obverse too but my curiosity got the best of me. Close AM.:sad: I did leave it in the plastic holder though and still have the cardboard "Cheerios" backing.

[Brad]

Brad - i've never heard or seen of any Cheerios cents having a wide am variety- do you have any pics or links on this ??



http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=27756

I have just heard that they have had Wide AM's. Reading the coin talk thread above neither confirms of denys this. After searching the web, I am beginning to doubt this. NGC has only certified close AM cheerios cents. Let me know if anyone has any info on this topic.

[Wheat Cents]

Never seen a Wide AM Cherrios 2000 either ..

[Wheat Cents]

only seen 'em slabbed this way...

[e_kkm]

Last year I sent 72 Cheerios cents to ANACS to be certified and all were Close AM's.

[Wheat Cents]

Last year I sent 72 Cheerios cents to ANACS to be certified and all were Close AM's.

If a lot of Cheerio pennies went to major grading services like ANACS and NGC ... maybe that is why it took so long to get submissions back.. :tinysmile_hmm_t:

Anyone have a population report on Cherrio 2000 pennies which NGC has "certified".
Is it approaching the 1995 DDO figures yet?

[car10]

Anyone have a population report on Cherrio 2000 pennies which NGC has "certified".
Is it approaching the 1995 DDO figures yet?

The 1995 DDO has been seen by NGC 16441 times.
The Cheerios cent only 174 times.
I guess that would make it one of those modern Lincoln rarities like the 1982 DDR. Right? :tinysmile_hmm_t:

[Wheat Cents]

The 1995 DDO has been seen by NGC 16441 times.
The Cheerios cent only 174 times.
I guess that would make it one of those modern Lincoln rarities like the 1982 DDR. Right? :tinysmile_hmm_t:

Somebody will tyr to make that connection and Cheerio cents will sky rocket until in 13years from its release there are 16,000 ... Wow think about that one grading service has graded a modern DDO that many times. No wonder I saw a dealer at the CSNS with stacks of them in his case. All MS66s, which for a modern Lincoln cent since the mid 80's is no big deal.

e_kkm says he sent 72 into ANACS.

I think PCGS has stayed away from that one. There has to be some integrity left in the major grading services.

[snowman]

i sent one Cheerios cent to NGC and it came back MS67 - now my son has it :squigglemouth:

its just dumb luck of what grade your getting back because you cant see the other side and its not easy seeing thru the plastic on the front side

Snowman

[Brad]

I think PCGS has stayed away from that one. There has to be some integrity left in the major grading services.

I really don't see the Cheerios cent as a variety. Why NGC and ANACS certify it, I have no idea. NGC does some weird stuff, but labeling a slab with a breakfast cereal...

[car10]

I really don't see the Cheerios cent as a variety. Why NGC and ANACS certify it, I have no idea. NGC does some weird stuff, but labeling a slab with a breakfast cereal...
It simply designates that it was one of the first 10,000,000 cents minted for Y2K. No more big a deal than "first strikes".

[Brad]

How many Cheerios cents do you think there are?

[e_kkm]

The main reason I sent my Cheerios cents off to ANACS was to see if I could get any of them graded graded higher than MS67. I had quite a few that came back in MS67, but none higher. As snowman said, you can't see the reverse and it's hard to see through the plastic so you have to be lucky to get one to come back graded in very high mint state. Also, an MS65 Cheerios cent in a PCGS holder was recently auctioned off on eBay for $104.49. It was item 300212192451 if you want to check it out.

[car10]

I really don't see the Cheerios cent as a variety. Why NGC and ANACS certify it, I have no idea.
I think it's a pedigree not a variety.
Based on the results of the PCGS coin sold that e_kkm mentioned, I would think those MS67's would do very well when sold at auction.

[brefos77]

I got a basic original packaged 2000 Cheerios cent. Do you think I should carefully open it and check for the wide-am possibility, or leave it alone?

[car10]

I wish I had left mine alone. I couldn't resist.

[Brad]

Based on what I have heard I would either leave it alone, or send it in for certification. It is most likely not a Wide AM.

[brefos77]

So I'm asuming the only reason to spend about $40.00 on getting one graded is the chance of getting a MS-70 since the coin has always been sealed?

[Wheat Cents]

So I'm asuming the only reason to spend about $40.00 on getting one graded is the chance of getting a MS-70 since the coin has always been sealed?


MS-70? no such thing unlees its an SGS..:LOL_Hair:

[Brad]

Anacs only charges $12.

[brefos77]

You can tell how well I know my grading, lol. So Anacs is only $12.00? Does that include slabbing also? I'd like to get the '88 graded and slabbed.

[Brad]

ANACS is the way to go if you are slabbing that '88D. If you send in 5 variety coins for certification, the cost will be a little over $100.

http://www.anacs.com/contentPages/Services.aspx

Another option is to do what Car10 did with his at ICG. You should ask him about his costs.

[brefos77]

I looked in and I thinks I did it right. For one coin (the '88), the total was $28.00:

$16.00 for the fee
$ 5.00 for some variety fee
$ 7.00 S/H
---------------------
$28.00

It has a fee of $10.00 if they have to research the variety. Is this particular variety popular and well known enough to save me ten bucks?

[Brad]

I looked in and I thinks I did it right. For one coin (the '88), the total was $28.00:

$16.00 for the fee
$ 5.00 for some variety fee
$ 7.00 S/H
---------------------
$28.00

It has a fee of $10.00 if they have to research the variety. Is this particular variety popular and well known enough to save me ten bucks?

What service are you referring to? If it is ICG I think you have to submit through CONECA....that adds $$$.

[brefos77]

It was Anacs.

[Brad]

Anacs shipping would be $7 + $10.05 = $17.05. I think you have to pay for registered return shipping.

You can use there economy service for $12.

That would be $12 + $5 + $17.05 = $34.05

That is why I would recommend only sending in coins when you have 5 or more to certify.

That 1988D RDV-006 has to get certified!

[Wheat Cents]

That is why I would recommend only sending in coins when you have 5 or more to certify.

Brad is right on here ... especially for varieties..

You start sending 'em in one at a time it will bleed you dry..

[brefos77]

Thanks guys. I just don'y have 4 more coins worth gettting slabbed. I guess one day a coin show will come to my area or maybe if one of you guys are going to one soon, I could mail you mine and you could do it for me...:tinysmile_hmm_t:

BTW, getting back to the main topic (sorry I hijacked!) check this out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2000-P-Sacagawea-CHEERIOS-Dollar-DISCOVERY-NGC-MS66_W0QQitemZ330230678626QQihZ014QQcategoryZ11983 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[snowman]

here is another off the wall Cheerios coin topic i thought was interesting just yesterday

http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=653486