View Full Version : Rare Coin | 1988 Transitional RDV-006 For Sale
car10
04-22-2008, 05:52 PM
You'll want to watch this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/1988-1c-Extremely-Rare-Transitional-Variety-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ300218638635QQihZ020QQcategoryZ52 4QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem).:D
car10
04-22-2008, 06:27 PM
What is your prediction?
I predict Koinpro takes it.
I predict Koinpro takes it.
I meant, how much will it go for?
car10
04-22-2008, 06:39 PM
I meant, how much will it go for?
I don't want to touch that one.:tinysmile_hmm_t:
brefos77
04-22-2008, 06:43 PM
I bid on it but I've already been outbid. Somebody wants this coin!
Who's selling it? Anyone in the club?
Who's selling it? Anyone in the club?
It's my auction.
Billy
brefos77
04-22-2008, 06:55 PM
Oh yeah, you have two, so you can spare one...some guys have all the luxuries! LOL
Be sure to keep the other one so you can say in the club (but if you get alot of money for the one you're selling, which we're all hoping you will, then it's completely understandable!)
Good luck with the auction!
Oh yeah, you have two, so you can spare one...some guys have all the luxuries! LOL
Be sure to keep the other one so you can say in the club (but if you get alot of money for the one you're selling, which we're all hoping you will, then it's completely understandable!)
Good luck with the auction!
:LOL_Hair: Hey, I put out a totally free DVN magazine, which BTW cost me quite a bit to do. I have to recoup somehow to cover expenses.
Billy
Some one does want it bad. I bid too. Good luck on your auction.
CCC
I never bid until the last 20 seconds of the auction. That is what most bidders do. You cannot judge what the final value will be based on the initial bids. I will bid on this one too, unless it goes through the roof.
car10
04-22-2008, 07:15 PM
It seems when I really want something and try to bid in the last 20 seconds that is when my computer decides it's time to lock-up and I miss out.
Steven
04-22-2008, 07:24 PM
The higher it goes the better my 88D will look.:LOL_Hair:
Your 88D is looking better all the time. You need to get that bad-boy certified.
car10
04-22-2008, 08:21 PM
Your 88D is looking better all the time. You need to get that bad-boy certified.
I'd like to know why the top tier TPG's will recognize the 2008-W burnished UNC ASE transitional but not the 1988 RDV-006 transitional Lincoln cent(yet). Abe gets no respect.
Steven
04-25-2008, 08:36 PM
Still watching it go up.
Below is a direct quote from another web site forum post that is related directly to my current auction of a 1988 1c Transitional variety.
"way too much hype.. nobody knew to look for these until real recently. i'd sell one in a heartbeat with all this attention.. they aint no 92d close am's"
Below is my reply to that post:
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But I have to disagree with you about your statement, "... they aint (sic) no 92d close am's"
The 1992-D Close AM is a transitional variety created the same way as the 1988. To be more correct in terminology, the 1992-D is mated with the reverse style of '93 and IS a transitional variety type.
The same as the 1988 is mated with reverse style of '89, also a transitional variety type.
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To All: If anybody is going to talk about my auction in an open forum in that type of fashion -- then they need to know first what they are talking about and come to me about it with their concerns.
I started my auction with an open bid of .99 cent with NO RESERVE! I even said in my auction text description I would let the bidder decide its value! Whatever the closing bid is -- is what is sells for. That is as fair as I can make it.
I believe these 1988 varieties are just as important and have a rightful place in the Lincoln cent series just as much as the 1992-D Transitional varieties or for that matter all the thousands and thousands of other varieties documented and catologued by various attribution filing systems.
After all -- that is what we are here for.
car10
04-26-2008, 10:00 AM
I went over to that site and read your exchange. That reply to his comment was priceless. :LOL_Hair:
There are two factors that go into the value of a coin. The supply and the demand. The demand is the result of the popularity, and the popularity of a variety is usually a result of the boldness of the variety. In comparing the 1992 D Wide Am and the 1988 RDV-006, the 1992 D is a bolder variety. They are the exact same type of variety - there is no doubt about that. In all fairness though, one has to admit that the 1992 D wide AM is bolder. However, a coin is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it... Whatever, the 1988 RDV-006 sells for, that is what it is worth at that given moment.
There are two factors that go into the value of a coin. The supply and the demand. The demand is the result of the popularity, and the popularity of a variety is usually a result of the boldness of the variety. In comparing the 1992 D Wide Am and the 1988 RDV-006, the 1992 D is a bolder variety. They are the exact same type of variety - there is no doubt about that. In all fairness though, one has to admit that the 1992 D wide AM is bolder. However, a coin is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it... Whatever, the 1988 RDV-006 sells for, that is what it is worth at that given moment.
I agree with you about supply/demand, and popularity of a variety are major factors in determining values.
As far as the 92-D Wide AM being bolder, as an attributer for many years, I simply see it as a reverse style of '93. No more no less. The reverse style of '89 mated with the obverse of 1988 is just that, no more no less.
Under examination, I see just as much "bolder" differences in the "FG" initials when comparing 1988 to 1989 reverse styles as much as I see the letters "A" and "M" of AMERICA being almost joined together for '93 or not for '92.
The 1992-D is more known in the hobby with its publication in many various media press and references (as it rightfully should IMO). The 1988 transitional variety is relatively new and it will take time for it to become known in our hobby just as the 1992-D also had its beginnings.
But for someone to refer directly to my auction and say "it aint no 92-D Wide Am" and infer it's all hype in the same sentence don't cut it in my book!
If one wants to collect them that's fine. If one doesn't that's fine also. That is what a hobby is all about. But one needs to know what they are talking about before making those kinds of statements.
Billy
Wheat Cents
04-26-2008, 10:30 AM
Nice thing about all these modern day varieties is people can, and actually are, finding them in pocket change . If any thing will bring more people into LC variety collcecting it is that fact alone.
Nice thing about all these modern day varieties is people can, and actually are, finding them in pocket change . If any thing will bring more people into LC variety collcecting it is that fact alone.
Well said!!! I couldn't agree with you more.
Billy
If "Bolder" means a slightly larger font or easier to spot with low magnification I agree. That could enter in to why it took so long to be discovered, regardless of relative rarity yet to be determined.
By the way, FYI, in the heat of discussion you guys accidentally changed it to 1992D Wide instead of close. I wish the wides were worth discussing, I have plenty of those.:angel:
Nice thing about all these modern day varieties is people can, and actually are, finding them in pocket change . If any thing will bring more people into LC variety collcecting it is that fact alone.
That is why I only search through Memorials now. Those 1992D Close AM's and 1988 RDV-006's are out there...with the 1999 Wide AM's.
That is why I only search through Memorials now. Those 1992D Close AM's and 1988 RDV-006's are out there...with the 1999 Wide AM's.
Same here Brad.
BTW folks -- as far as my auction is concerned. Whatever it sells for is what ever it sells for. If a person wants to collect these, then collect them. If you don't -- then don't.
But -- I am laughing ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK!!!!! For those of you who think these '88 transitional varieties are nothing but hype -- by all means, please do me a favor -- don't collect them. Don't look for them. When you find one -- put it back in circulation.
That way you leave more for me to find and each time I can laugh all the way to the bank again.
Billy
Thats why I save "everything that might have value" even though I dont "collect" everything.
I know i'll never find a 1914d in circ. but I'll be glad to trade my 1999 wide AM for one.
AgCollector
04-26-2008, 11:28 AM
...I believe these 1988 varieties are just as important and have a rightful place in the Lincoln cent series just as much as the 1992-D Transitional varieties or for that matter all the thousands and thousands of other varieties documented and catologued by various attribution filing systems.
After all -- that is what we are here for.
No argument here!
car10
04-26-2008, 07:25 PM
Same here Brad.
For those of you who think these '88 transitional varieties are nothing but hype -- When you find one -- put it back in circulation.
Billy
NO!!! Send them to me!:D
brefos77
05-02-2008, 01:52 PM
$356.01...that's a lot of hype! Congrats on a great sale, Billy. If it's someone not here already, please invite him/her to join our group.
AgCollector
05-02-2008, 04:11 PM
$356.01...that's a lot of hype! Congrats on a great sale, Billy. If it's someone not here already, please invite him/her to join our group.
Well, I was going to hold on to mine, but... wow! I think that's good motivation to sell one or two.
car10
05-02-2008, 04:36 PM
There was another auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200219715712&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fse arch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D 200219715712%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1)for a second 1988 RDV-006 that closed at almost the same time. It went for $202.50.
Those prices were surprising to say the least. Nice.
AgCollector
05-02-2008, 04:53 PM
Well, I already listed two of mine- located here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230249236594
and here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230249237063
wish me luck!
car10
05-02-2008, 05:01 PM
Good Luck! Great photos! Can't miss. Hope you see a very nice payday.:)
brefos77
05-03-2008, 05:16 AM
Wel, I'm the first bidder on both. I bid $4.00 on each, but of course I hope I don't win. As far as I know, Billy has the record high selling/auction price of $356.01.
OK, Ag, let's see if you can top that! Good luck!
AgCollector
05-03-2008, 06:16 AM
Wel, I'm the first bidder on both. I bid $4.00 on each, but of course I hope I don't win. As far as I know, Billy has the record high selling/auction price of $356.01.
OK, Ag, let's see if you can top that! Good luck!
Thanks brefos77! I doubt either coin will beat the record but I'll be happy if they wind up anywhere close.
Steven
05-03-2008, 07:10 AM
Just curious but is anyone trying to keep track of a grade and selling price of these 1988 RDV's for a future reference. I though that the information may come in handy at some point. With a small number of them to date it shouldn't be to difficult to keep track of. I would try this myself but i don't think I could grade an egg much less keep an acurate acount of these coins.
Congrats on a great sale, Billy. If it's someone not here already, please invite him/her to join our group.
Thanks. :D I don't believe the high bidder is a member of the group and will provide an invitation to join.
I plan on putting out a price guide along with all the actual known sales on these varieties in my next issue of Die Variety News magazine.
Well, I already listed two of mine- located here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230249236594
and here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230249237063
wish me luck!
One is 213.50 the other is 135.50 with 8 hrs. to go. Good luck.
David
snowman
05-15-2008, 07:44 AM
i see that bidding didnt go any higher than what David posted before the bidding ended
I'm surprised it didnt go higher compared to Billy's ebay sale but his ebay sales probably has alot of name recognition with his Die Variety information he posts which is a good thing.
I see the winner won both auctions but didnt win with Billy's auction. I also see that is the same winner of Shings 92D close AM- NICE !!!!
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