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Old 05-08-2013   #1
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2013 Lathe lines?

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Date: 2013P

I'm fine with these being LL the only problem I'm having is that the radius does not strike me as correct for the size of the coin. Pulled several of these from one roll. Ops?
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I don't think they are LL's they appear to be off center and not to have expanded or descended as a lathe would have created.
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Probably polishing lines. They don't match what would happen on true lathe lines.
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George, couldn't they be abrasion lines?
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George, couldn't they be abrasion lines?
Could be but they are very symetrical and look like the ones that I posted for another 2013 (on the reverse but not in the same place) earlier. Jason has the prior one and is studying it. Will report when he advises.
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This one is driving me crazy. The greenish arrows show what I normally would consider lathe lines; they are concentric in appearance and parallel to the edges. The purple arrows show similar lines (spacing and depth), however these lines are not running in a circle on the coin that would be consistent with lathe marks. These lines are curving, but are not parallel to the edge. But it's weird how these lines are present on the recessed and then raised parts of the die. Did some Mint employee use an unusual method of polishing a die, or did old lathe marks somehow become distorted during the hubbing? There are normal polishing marks on the coin, and in places near the marks. I still cannot decide what to call this.


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Did some Mint employee use an unusual method of polishing a die, or did old lathe marks somehow become distorted during the hubbing?

The only thing I think why the marks would be on the raised devises--would be that the marks were on the planchet, and there was a weak strike. I know this probably isn't right. It's just too much of a coincidence that the marks are on a coin from a die with lathe lines.
Sooooooo........ it must have something to do with the lathe lines ..........right?

Man, this is a good one Jason. I hope you will continue this investigation or attribution to completion.
Maybe Mike Diamond has seen this before?
Too tired to think right now.
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I dont think this coin you pictured Jason would be considered lathe lines but some odd polishing. Ive never seen lathe lines go ontop of letters. Ive came across weird polishing lines on 2012 cents that look like lathe lines but arent. I think they might of switched a tool they were using to polish coins.
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So Jake, you are saying there are 'no' lathe lines on this coin?
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So Jake, you are saying there are 'no' lathe lines on this coin?
Yeah pretty much just some very odd polishing lines. If you look at the coin pictured it keeps changing directions. Lathe lines dont change directions.
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